Comments - Transcript of Second ARZone Member's Workshop - Animal Rights Zone2024-03-29T00:35:37Zhttp://arzone.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4715978%3ABlogPost%3A31904&xn_auth=noGreat! Arild recently transla…tag:arzone.ning.com,2011-04-17:4715978:Comment:314922011-04-17T11:53:55.952ZMary Martin, PhDhttp://arzone.ning.com/profile/MaryMartinPhD
Great! Arild recently translated it into Norwegian and made a couple of changes (e.g., added some Norway-specific information) and we used the same layout. The animal rights group there uses it and has also posted it on its site at: <a href="http://www.vegansamfunnet.no/kritisk-tenkning/" target="_blank">http://www.vegansamfunnet.no/kritisk-tenkning/</a>
Great! Arild recently translated it into Norwegian and made a couple of changes (e.g., added some Norway-specific information) and we used the same layout. The animal rights group there uses it and has also posted it on its site at: <a href="http://www.vegansamfunnet.no/kritisk-tenkning/" target="_blank">http://www.vegansamfunnet.no/kritisk-tenkning/</a> Hi all,
Because you raised th…tag:arzone.ning.com,2011-04-17:4715978:Comment:320212011-04-17T10:30:47.986ZMary Martin, PhDhttp://arzone.ning.com/profile/MaryMartinPhD
<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Because you raised the topic of pamphlets about use, I wanted to link to "Thinking Critically About The Animals We Use." I find it's a great conversation starter, it anticipates the flow of questions, it's not threatening and doesn't put people on the defensive. I created it largely for my own purposes, so it might not suit yours, but at least it's a starting point for thinking about what you'd do/not do in a set of pamphlets on use. …</p>
<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Because you raised the topic of pamphlets about use, I wanted to link to "Thinking Critically About The Animals We Use." I find it's a great conversation starter, it anticipates the flow of questions, it's not threatening and doesn't put people on the defensive. I created it largely for my own purposes, so it might not suit yours, but at least it's a starting point for thinking about what you'd do/not do in a set of pamphlets on use. <a href="http://www.animalperson.net/animal_person/2011/01/ch-ch-ch-changes.html" target="_blank">http://www.animalperson.net/animal_person/2011/01/ch-ch-ch-changes.html</a></p>
<p>I actually have great success with vegan education, but for the most part I do it with people I know and can follow up with and support. So my reach is very small, even though it's successful (read: people go vegan).</p>
<p>As for what we call ourselves, I say "vegan," and then I explain that I don't use/kill animals unless I absolutely must (say, a drug tested on animals b/c they all are if they're FDA approved). I also make two important points: 1) it's not just about food; and 2) no one is claiming to be 100% vegan ("yeah, but you live in a house and drive a car, yada, yada, yada"). I used to call myself an abolitionist vegan, and vegan is tough enough for most people. Abolitionist is completely alien and doesn't help me reach them. I want my language to be as easy for them to grasp as possible. With that said, I don't sanitize and use words like euthanasia (if it's not) or culling or carcass (I do say corpse). There's an arbitrary/subjective line separating words that are accurate and the average person can handle (corpse) from words that are accurate and repulse/upset people to the point that they get defensive (corpse muncher). If they introduce something into the conversation that I wouldn't, fine (maybe they've heard of abolitionists, who knows?) Finally, there's the matter of how much you want to challenge them and how much of a challenge they can take before shutting down. And you have no idea if you don't know the person (and if you do, and you're not paying careful attention, you might still have no idea), therefore erring on the conservative side, for me, is the strategy of choice, because I'm limiting how offensive I might sound. Others, obviously, disagree.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long comment. I wanted to participate live but I have house guests and we were at a vegan, raw restaurant talking about ways to make easy vegan meals in advance for the week and the significant downside of palm oil. Progress. Slower than I want, but progress.</p>