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JUSTICE FOR THE "KIM HOLLINGSWORTH" HORSES AT LAST!!

A while ago a young lady posted a blog in regards to a lot of horses owned by "KIM HOLLINGSWORTH" in nsw. Well the RSPCA are now seizing those horses!!! Its a great day FOR ANIMAL LOVERS AND ACTIVISTS EVERYWHERE. And its a great day for some of the horses. Being saved after all this time of being grossly neglected by former prostitute KIM HOLLINGSWORTH. So to all those people that gave that young lady who posted the blog a hard time...here is your humble pie served with some egg on your face!!!!

A successful protest rally was held at yagoona RSPCA and a lot of people never gave up they fought for these horses and it has paid off. Congratulations to you all you should be so proud for not giving up and so very proud for helping the horses, i take my hat off to you all. This is what real people who care are all about.

Where is KIM HOLLINGSWORTH now? with all her fake comments and clap trap?? 

JUSTICE FOR THE HORSES. HIP HIP HOORAY

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Comment by vintagelovingvegan on July 23, 2012 at 4:21

Well John *ditto* you seem to have summed up the admin team in your succinct postings so I did the same. Can't say fairer than that. :) Not nice is it? I do wonder why your post is very similar to Carolyn's response to you, however. For someone who doesn't seem to care very much for her you certainly emulate her style or was it a simple cut n paste job?
Jennifer, I do not trust the RSPCA having had personal dealings with them myself in the UK. I say alleged abuse because I know nothing of the case and wouldn't want to state categorically that this was the case as that wouldn't be fair. *However* like I said before, which you must have missed, if this *is* the case I am disgusted and saddened as anyone. My concern is with the horses however and not retaliation on the internet to people who weren't even involved. Instead of reiterating what I said before, yet again, can you point out where in my previous post it states that ARZ are personally responsible or agree with the views of everyone that comments/visits/interviewed for/on this site?

Comment by Jennifer on July 22, 2012 at 17:56

Vintagelovingvegan, are you for real? "If neglect happened? Alleged abuse?" The RSPCA have SEIZED Kim's horses. Proof in itself. They do not place a Warrant of Seizure on someone without good reason. When will ARZone admins admit they got it wrong. They glorified a horse abuser on this site without doing their homework on the person concerned. Burying your head in the sand and pretending it's not happening will get you nowhere yet still you dont acknowledge that neglect has taken place. Tim Gier kept asking for proof, well here it is, seizure of horses after a long investigation and I imagine thats only the tip of the iceberg. I would expect there will be more, and prosecution to follow. Here's a tip for your reporters for next person they interview.....RESEARCH !!!!!

Comment by John Boy Smith on July 22, 2012 at 17:30

Vintagelovingvegan, you seem to have an in-depth knowledge of how and where I spend my time, and quite an intimate knowledge of my thoughts and feelings. I think it takes a special type of person to be able to do that by reading a few hastily typed, and rather brief, internet posts. You have a rare gift, vintagelovingvegan.

Comment by vintagelovingvegan on July 22, 2012 at 10:01

Jennifer how did ARZ 'glorify' anyone? I believe that they quite clearly state:

ARZone is supportive of education, critical thinking, rational discourse, and aims to provoke intelligent dialogue about issues that most concern members of the animal advocacy movement.

ARZone does not endorse or promote the views of its guests and forum participants; ARZone does endorse and promote creative education efforts.

If this alleged act of abuse has taken place then how are the admins at fault? I am sure they would be as saddened and disgusted, if it's true, as others.

John Boy Smith, sounds like you have a serious case of inferiority aka chip on the shoulder  would get that checked out by someone and quickly :) Hope that helps :)

Comment by John Boy Smith on July 21, 2012 at 16:52

Oh my god Tim, you've excelled yourself. I have tears in my eyes. Trenchant critique!!!!!! Not only do you have an amazing sense of humour, you also own a theosaurus. I don't think I can take much more. And Carolyn from your comment am I to assume about knowing so little about you that you actually have more of this jocular gold. I would say ROFLMAO but then you would think that maybe I went to one of the cheaper Universities and not the top shelf like you two, and then you would be able to send private messages to each other and tell all your friends that my opinions don't matter because I'm lower class than you. I love this, it's the best. I love yoiu guys. Please reply to me again with the same sort of stuff, it's priceless. By the way Tim I know I spelt thesaurus wrong at the start, I just thought I'd give you a thrill and make you think you had a valid argument about something ( it will happen eventually, don't give up).

Comment by Jennifer on July 21, 2012 at 16:09

I'm not getting involved with the whole "Animal Rights" issue being argued here. But I will say, that Tim Gier has been asking for "proof" of neglect. RSPCA has seized 11 horses and taken them to the University. These horses were seized because they need urgent help, and RSPCA has taken that action. They cannot seize a horse unless it is in a critical situation and needs saving from the hands of neglect, they are governed by laws of seizure. A "Seizure Warrant" was issued to Kim Hollingsworth and I'm suspecting more will follow. I have been told news today that some of the seized horses have already been euthanized, but this has not been confirmed by RSPCA.  So there you have it Tim & Carolyn, Kim Hollingsworth HAS neglected her horses, and I for one, am very releived that RSPCA has launched an investigation, found evidence of neglect, and acted upon it. I have faith that they will continue to work to help these horseswho were brought into a situation at and neglected at the hands of a Vegan who you glorified in an ARZone interview.

Comment by Carolyn Bailey on July 21, 2012 at 11:26

John Boy, I have to say, I'm more than a little impressed myself. You seem to have an in-depth knowledge of how and where I spend my time, and quite an intimate knowledge of my thoughts and feelings. I think it takes a special type of person to be able to do that by reading a few hastily typed, and rather brief, internet posts. You have a rare gift, John Boy. 

Comment by Tim Gier on July 21, 2012 at 11:09

Wow John Boy, that was a trenchant critique, really, and so full of original thought, such things as I've never heard before. You've changed my life. Thanks.

Comment by John Boy Smith on July 21, 2012 at 10:53

Dear Arzone, I absolutely love this page. It’s the funniest website Ive come across in ages. Tim and Carolyn, your sheer brilliance at portraying such subtle sarcasm and cynicism amazes me. Actually amazes me isn’t the right way to put it. I’ve cracked up so many times the last couple of days since I found this site I really think you two in particular are comic geniuses (or is that genii? ). I’ve always loved comedians who can straight faced subtly insult someone without them even realizing it. People like Edna Everage, Joan Rivers and Dylan Moran are good at it but you two, OMG, you’re the best. That stuff about you shouldn’t own animals but they can’t be let roam free, and then not even having an attempt at providing a solution without waiting a few generations  is just brilliant. And having a quote on your home page saying there is no one fact, no one argument, no simple answer and and let all voices be free to speak, and then not accepting anyone’s opinions but your own, it’s just absolutely hilarious. I mean, seriously,  just picture some animals that actually do need rescuing, and Tim and Carolyn sitting at their computers sending messages to each other saying  “ my opinion is more important than anyone else’s”  or “no, my ideas and philosophy on animal rights are the best” while those animals starve to death or are killed. They  couldn’t possibly be real personalities, they’re too funny..

On the down side though a friend I shared this page with yesterday as I was nearly wetting myself said “I don’t think they’re joking, I think they’re serious”. I nearly choked laughing at the absurdity but he saw my point after I argued with him that it couldn’t possibly be serious. As I said to him, “that’s not possible, how could two people like Carolyn and Tim be so pretentious and so obsessed with their own self- importance”. He saw my point immediately, and then said to me “you’re right, they couldn’t genuinely be such irrelevant wankers (sorry, his words not mine), and not only that if they really were concerned about animals instead of providing humor then they would do something constructive instead of just talking about it”.

Anyway, thanks again you guys, you’ve really brightened the last couple of days for me. Cheers, John Boy

PS have you considered scripting some of this stuff as a pilot for a comedy series, sort of like Black Books? It would be side splitting.

Comment by vintagelovingvegan on July 21, 2012 at 5:41

I don't know if the horses were being abused as I know nothing of the story so I can't comment on that.  What I do know is that these individuals deserve to live out their days *free*. That's from exploitation, objectification and abuse. A life can not be owned. To believe in ownership then you see them as commodities, as property that you can treat in any way you see fit. These horses deserve to live the rest of their time, however long that is, in a genuine sanctuary that will not subject them to humans' on their back, or working to 'earn their keep'. The only thing that should be on their backs is the sun, from spending time in the paddock, doing whatever it is they choose to do. If the RSPCA is the same as it is in the UK I don't have any faith that this will happen. But if it does then that truly will be the best 'hip hip hooray' not this self imposed congratulatory back slapping that seems to be going on from some posters. Going from one abusive situation (if that's what was happening as I know nothing of the alleged situation) to another is *not* a victory! They are *not* saved.  What is it that you *truly* care about? Remarking that Kim was a prostitute (relevance?!), sticking one to ARZ and the admins OR the horses? 'JUSTICE FOR THE HORSES. HIP HIP HOORAY' - sadly the jury is out on that one.

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