Comments - Transcript of Prof. Priscilla Cohn's Live ARZone Guest Chat - Animal Rights Zone2024-03-29T02:24:52Zhttps://arzone.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4715978%3ABlogPost%3A74577&xn_auth=noIt seems impossible to me to…tag:arzone.ning.com,2012-02-06:4715978:Comment:816992012-02-06T19:58:28.695ZKatarzyna Biernackahttps://arzone.ning.com/profile/KatarzynaBiernacka
<p>It seems impossible to me to disconnect the practice of contraception for free-living animals and the belief that humans' control over other animals should be taken for granted. I understand that the contraception is meant here to save lives of those who would otherwise be killed (or their children who would otherwise be killed) but shouldn't we take a more balanced look at the way we live on the planet with its shrinking space and resources and admit that if it becomes necessary to give…</p>
<p>It seems impossible to me to disconnect the practice of contraception for free-living animals and the belief that humans' control over other animals should be taken for granted. I understand that the contraception is meant here to save lives of those who would otherwise be killed (or their children who would otherwise be killed) but shouldn't we take a more balanced look at the way we live on the planet with its shrinking space and resources and admit that if it becomes necessary to give contraceptives to free-living non-humans (and we may discuss how necessary is "necessary") then all the more humans should take responsibility for the way they live and the space they take.</p> I liked thischat. It was blas…tag:arzone.ning.com,2011-12-20:4715978:Comment:749352011-12-20T22:38:01.361ZLynne Yateshttps://arzone.ning.com/profile/LynneYates
<p>I liked thischat. It was blast of fresh air. Priscilla is living in the real world. Of course some of what she advocated would not be ideal in a truly vegan world but there is a long way to go before that becomes a reality and animals are dying today! Sometimes you have to be practical and deal with the situations as they exist now.</p>
<p>I liked thischat. It was blast of fresh air. Priscilla is living in the real world. Of course some of what she advocated would not be ideal in a truly vegan world but there is a long way to go before that becomes a reality and animals are dying today! Sometimes you have to be practical and deal with the situations as they exist now.</p> I have to agree with Brandon'…tag:arzone.ning.com,2011-12-19:4715978:Comment:748292011-12-19T00:36:36.873Zred doghttps://arzone.ning.com/profile/reddog
<p>I have to agree with Brandon's point above ... plus where does Prof. Cohn's terminology leave animals who are wild by nature but living in captivity? I see wildness as a positive characteristic, and I think so do the majority.</p>
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<p>Anyway, it was a good chat that covered a lot of ground ... hard to know where to start picking it apart.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Brandon's point above ... plus where does Prof. Cohn's terminology leave animals who are wild by nature but living in captivity? I see wildness as a positive characteristic, and I think so do the majority.</p>
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<p>Anyway, it was a good chat that covered a lot of ground ... hard to know where to start picking it apart.</p> I disagree with Priscilla Coh…tag:arzone.ning.com,2011-12-18:4715978:Comment:750162011-12-18T23:12:50.635ZBrandon Beckerhttps://arzone.ning.com/profile/BrandonBecker
<p>I disagree with Priscilla Cohn's idea that "wild animal" is (or should be) a pejorative term. It's only when one accepts the idea that domestication is right or good that "wild" is then deemed as wrong or bad. In addition, it doesn't make sense to use "free-living" as a synonym for "wild" unless you are going to refer to domesticated animals as "captive-living" rather than "domesticated." I used to use these alternatives but because I hate domestication and love wildness and want to make…</p>
<p>I disagree with Priscilla Cohn's idea that "wild animal" is (or should be) a pejorative term. It's only when one accepts the idea that domestication is right or good that "wild" is then deemed as wrong or bad. In addition, it doesn't make sense to use "free-living" as a synonym for "wild" unless you are going to refer to domesticated animals as "captive-living" rather than "domesticated." I used to use these alternatives but because I hate domestication and love wildness and want to make this point crystal clear in my discussions of animal ethics, I've gone back to using "domesticated"/"wild."</p> This was a great chat. I know…tag:arzone.ning.com,2011-12-18:4715978:Comment:748272011-12-18T22:04:03.103ZTim Gierhttps://arzone.ning.com/profile/TimGier
<p>This was a great chat. I know that many people will probably differ with some of Prof. Cohn's views (especially perhaps about contraception for deer) but I thought she presented her views very clearly and in easy to understand language. I learned a lot in through this exchange, and that's always a good thing!!</p>
<p>This was a great chat. I know that many people will probably differ with some of Prof. Cohn's views (especially perhaps about contraception for deer) but I thought she presented her views very clearly and in easy to understand language. I learned a lot in through this exchange, and that's always a good thing!!</p> I agree with you, Sky!
I enj…tag:arzone.ning.com,2011-12-18:4715978:Comment:748232011-12-18T21:41:34.994ZCarolyn Baileyhttps://arzone.ning.com/profile/CarolynBailey
<p>I agree with you, Sky! </p>
<p>I enjoyed this chat a lot as well. I found Priscilla to be a wonderful person and a great educator. I disagreed with her on a few topics, but I think it's really important to be able to disagree on things in a respectful and civil way, which creates an environment to learn from each other. </p>
<p>I don't really have "favourite" chats, but if I did, this one would be right up there! </p>
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<p>I agree with you, Sky! </p>
<p>I enjoyed this chat a lot as well. I found Priscilla to be a wonderful person and a great educator. I disagreed with her on a few topics, but I think it's really important to be able to disagree on things in a respectful and civil way, which creates an environment to learn from each other. </p>
<p>I don't really have "favourite" chats, but if I did, this one would be right up there! </p>
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