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at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tim Gier Jun 17, 2012. 8 Replies

if ther is anyone else on this site who has been dismayed an disgusted by tim giers repeated attacks on veganism ,an its central importanse as the moral baseline of the animal rights movement , im…Continue

animal "rights" zone ?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carolyn Bailey Jun 2, 2012. 26 Replies

this is to let all members know i hav desided to leave ARzone - an why .firstly ,i am completly disgusted by some of the views expresed on this site,an the way other members hav failed to question…Continue

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Tim Gier replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?
"My views have nothing to do with human supremacy at all. All that I base my reasoning on is a clear understanding of the implications of a rights-based theory of animal ethics. Please let me explain. A rights-based view stems, roughly, from the…"
Jun 17, 2012
Carolyn Bailey replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?
"Tina, I have no desire to engage in yet another one of your self-serving attacks on ARZone. Please, go ahead and explain how ARZone supports the consumption of eggs. If you wish for your claims to be taken seriously, please explain how ARZone is…"
Jun 17, 2012
Tina Cubberley replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?
"you dont seem to offer much to support the ur "alegations" in this rant urself carolyn -so it seems im not alone .  either u an tim gier are horibly upset by my vicious personal attack (which insidentaly contains nothing…"
Jun 17, 2012
Carolyn Bailey replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?
"Wow, Tina! When I saw that you were online in ARZone, the first thing I said was "I hope she doesn't cause any more trouble." I'm often criticised for expecting too much from others, and this was certainly no exception.  Why…"
Jun 17, 2012
Tim Gier replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?
"As an example of Tina's confusion, she says: "his claim that cutting flesh from the dead bodies of sentient beings is consistant with vegan principals".  Now, this may not be an obvious point but, dead bodies aren't "of…"
Jun 17, 2012
Tim Gier replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?
"Hi Tina! Glad to see that you didn't follow through on your promise to leave ARZone. Everyone's opinion is welcome here."
Jun 17, 2012
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at last , an end to welfarism on arzone ?

if ther is anyone else on this site who has been dismayed an disgusted by tim giers repeated attacks on veganism ,an its central importanse as the moral baseline of the animal rights movement , im sure they wil be as relieved as i am to find he is no longer a member of this site. giers defense of forms of exploitation such as the use of honey an eggs, an his claim that cutting flesh from the dead bodies of sentient beings is consistant with vegan principals ,was particularly demoralizing on a…See More
Jun 16, 2012
Carolyn Bailey replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
"Hi Josh, You're right, Roger will be very much missed in ARZone, and his choice to leave is a great loss, both to ARZone and to me personally.  I think it's very sad that he has made the decision to leave, rather than discuss the…"
Jun 2, 2012
Tim Gier replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
"Hi Joshua, the way I see it, the people who are opposed to animal rights would be willing to exploit every weakness in our arguments if by doing so they can ignore the substance of our claims.  It's only because of that that it's…"
Jun 2, 2012
Joshua Harper replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
"Hey everyone, Before I even started typing this a sense of regret overtook me because I try to stay out of these frays, but I wanted to talk about something that I think is applicable to this debate. Back in the 1970's there was an exorbitant…"
Jun 2, 2012
Tim Gier replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
"Tom Regan's attempt to explicate his own view of moral rights, by his own account and as Carolyn mentioned above, involves examining "among moral philosophy’s most contentious questions". These are not easy questions and they…"
Jun 1, 2012
Kate✯GO VEGAN+NOBODY GETS HURT Ⓥ replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
May 31, 2012
Carolyn Bailey replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
"The above statement, Tim, seems to suggest that rights are not something that an individual is born with, nor are they something that are automatically given by God. Rights are something, according to Gary Francione, who, some believe, created…"
May 31, 2012
Tim Gier replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
"Just so that everyone knows that I'm not out on a limb here, I think it might be helpful to the discussion about what rights are and where they come from if I post this: Question 2: Rights were devised by humans. How can they even be applicable…"
May 31, 2012
Tim Gier replied to Tina Cubberley's discussion animal "rights" zone ?
"As I understand the concept, anarchism is the rejection of the authority of the state in recognition of the rights of autonomous agents to govern themselves in all matters.  Therefore, it seems incongruous to me that an anarchist would deign to…"
May 31, 2012
Tina Cubberley replied to Carolyn Bailey's discussion Bees Make Honey ~ Tim Gier
"i dont even see how the last point is an alegation -an who says i am targeting you in particular ? i dont know you or tim gier personaly , so it is ridiculus to suggest that i personaly dislike either of you ,an am inventing "alegations"…"
May 31, 2012

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At 23:51 on April 1, 2011, Kate✯GO VEGAN+NOBODY GETS HURT Ⓥ said…
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