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A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil

Started this discussion. Last reply by Richard McMahan Nov 3, 2013. 7 Replies

Here's an experiment in social psychology that I'd like to see performed (or that I'd like to read about if something like it has already been performed):Post a statement in various groups on…Continue

The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better

Started this discussion. Last reply by Uptight Primate Nov 13, 2013. 8 Replies

Eric Schwitzgebel is Professor of Philosophy at the University of California. He's studied the relationship between one's stated moral beliefs and one's behavior, as shown by the responses to…Continue

Tags: Eric-Schwitzgebel, Philosophy-Bites, respect, other-animals, ethics

Most Animals in U.S are killed by Cats

Started this discussion. Last reply by Kath Worsfold May 17, 2013. 14 Replies

Animals in the U.S face a formidable foe, cats, which are one of them but has killed billions of animals already, according to a recent study.The study was done by the researchers from the…Continue

Tags: spay, neuter, contraception, feral, prey

Use of chimpanzees in medical research would be restricted under proposed federal rules

Started Jan 24, 2013 0 Replies

The U.S. and Gabon are the only nations that allow medical research on chimpanzees. The National Institutes of Health wants to change that.From the Mother Nature Network, by John Platt The use of…Continue

Tags: liberation, sanctuary, experimentation, vivisection, chimpanzee

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Carolyn Bailey replied to Tim Gier's discussion ARZone Podcast 41: Intersectionality, Internet and Advocacy in a non-Vegan World
"Billy said: My point about cats is just that it is another example of compromises vegans must deal with, not everything about being vegan is easy. Purchasing an ultra-expensive, potentially unhealthy product for cats to eat is one way to deal…"
Mar 24
Uptight Primate replied to Tim Gier's discussion The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better
"I actually think we (vegan activists) are 'special'. That we are prepared to question and change our behaviour more than most people are - we represent (as far as animal issues are concerned) a rational and virtuous elite. (by now so many…"
Nov 13, 2013
Tim Gier replied to Tim Gier's discussion The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better
"Mandy, We don't know why we do the things we do and almost all of our explanations for our own behaviors are rationalizations after the fact. We are not in charge of our own lives in the way most of us think we are - our conscious experience of…"
Nov 11, 2013
Mandy Barlow replied to Tim Gier's discussion The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better
"Okay thanks. It just takes time (a few times) for the realisation to sink in. I changed my behaviour when I joined Animal Liberation. I stopped eating fish - because of what I was told. And I started feeling bad that I was making fish suffer. I then…"
Nov 11, 2013
Tim Gier replied to Tim Gier's discussion The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better
"I should also say that some 'abolitionist' goals - such as the ending of the human practice of keeping other animals as 'pets' - are not possible to be universally achieved at all, ever, given the sorts of creatures human beings…"
Nov 10, 2013
Tim Gier replied to Tim Gier's discussion The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better
"Hi Mandy, What I believe the research shows is that, even when a person admits to believing something, it's nor necessarily the case that their behavior will align with their beliefs. That means that, even if we communicate to others in ways…"
Nov 10, 2013
Mandy Barlow replied to Tim Gier's discussion The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better
"Do you mean it's the way you communicate your message to others that's important? Don't we want the world to be vegan to stop animal explotation? I do. I can see that's the only way. Although I admit I'm one of those…"
Nov 10, 2013
Richard McMahan replied to Tim Gier's discussion A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil
" Probably the the best choice. But when your numbers hover around 2 to 3%, who knows! "
Nov 3, 2013
Richard McMahan replied to Tim Gier's discussion A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil
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Nov 3, 2013
Tim Gier replied to Tim Gier's discussion A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil
"Hi Richard, I quoted Jesus.... "
Oct 25, 2013
Richard McMahan replied to Tim Gier's discussion A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil
"I love your discussions Tim. And I often agree with you. I suspect you commonly catch a lot of shit, but I want to disagree with you today, but, admirably so. So I can now comfortably ask..why would any any advocate quote a vilified historical…"
Oct 24, 2013
Tim Gier replied to Tim Gier's discussion A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil
"Advocacy has value when it helps creates a space in which like-minded people can work to find practical solutions to real problems of importance to them. That most advocacy is "preaching to the choir" isn't necessarily a bad thing…"
Oct 23, 2013
Carolyn Bailey replied to Tim Gier's discussion A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil
""I believe that most of us, most of the time, believe what we want to believe and then we find ways to rationalize that."  ~  Absolutely! I don't know of this experiment ever having been performed, officially, before,…"
Oct 23, 2013
Richard McMahan replied to Tim Gier's discussion A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil
"What leads up to "I believe that most of us, most of the time, believe what we want to believe and then we find ways to rationalize that"?  I'm asking, what then, is the reason for the initial impulse of belief? Perhaps this…"
Oct 23, 2013
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A Proposed Experiment on the Appraisal of Good and Evil

Here's an experiment in social psychology that I'd like to see performed (or that I'd like to read about if something like it has already been performed):Post a statement in various groups on Facebook, attributing that statement randomly to either of two well-known advocates, then measure the positive and negative responses to (or defenses of/attacks on) both the statement and the persons it’s attributed to.For example, the experiment might be to post the following statement and attribute it…See More
Oct 23, 2013
Tim Gier replied to Tim Gier's discussion The Ethical Behavior of Those Who Should Know Better
"I believe that a focus within the movement on turning people vegan amounts to a mistake."
Oct 23, 2013

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Things You Already Believe

Posted on July 18, 2012 at 22:30 0 Comments

 

You already believe you are a good person who would not want to hurt others.

 

You already believe it is better to be helpful and kind whenever you can.…

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By Eric Schwitzgebel: Moral Reasoning (or the lack thereof?)

Posted on March 3, 2012 at 7:59 5 Comments

Eric Schwitzgebel, Professor of Philosophy at University of California at Riverside, writes a blog called The Splintered Mind. His latest post is about how people do moral reasoning and how that reasoning is affected by seemingly irrelevant things. His findings, even among professional Philosophers, may suprise you....



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By Dale Carrico: Evadeus Corpus: Absenting the Referent in the Meat-Industrial Complex

Posted on March 2, 2012 at 4:51 0 Comments

Dale Carrico, Ph.D. Lecturer, Department of Rhetoric, at the University of California, Berkeley writes at the blog amor mundi. Today's entry talks about "ag-gag" legislation as it relates to Carol Adams conception of the absent referent as well as how the animal-industrial complex devalues and damages human animals along with the non-human…

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The Spectrum of Acceptable Opinion - A Response to Rob Johnson

Posted on January 23, 2012 at 14:30 7 Comments

It seems like Rob Johnson just can’t let go of his obsession with ARZone.

 

On Brandon Becker's Facebook page, Rob Johnson said a number of things that are all equally banal, but I’d like to focus on just this:

Similarly the latest ARZone blog, which I am told Yates was promoting yesterday, is on the fact that they deem ARZone to be successful and so they deem the AR movement to be successful as ARZone supports open debate. There's a famous Chomsky quote that…
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At 7:37 on June 17, 2012, Maynard S. Clark said…

Good to see two brilliant and prominent vegetarians disagreeing so fundamentally (in the public space) about such a prominently debated current issue.

 
 
 

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