Creating demand for vegan products

[Kerry Baker]

I was doing an Internet search to see if there are such things as vegan building materials for house construction.  I came across this site;

http://fitvegan4life.tumblr.com/post/18396925380/i-see-this-graphic...

It occurs to me that being vegan is a Catch 22 issue.  People don't ask for vegan products because it doesn't occur to them that building materials, for example glues, may contain animal products.  But unless people start demanding vegan products the options will remain largely unsuitable for the vegan lifestyle.

Perhaps a website that does take people through alternative options for things like building materials could start a greater demand for cruelty free products.  The slow pace of change has been commented on in other discussions and blogs on this site.  I'm wondering if there may be a way to firstly get something on the Net and secondly to make sure it comes up on the first page when people use a search engine to find suppliers of goods and services.

A huge task, perhaps can be done along industry lines, but it might start people becoming aware of how much animal products are unnecessarily used in manufacturing that can be replaced by equally effective goods.

Having said that, I have absolutely no IT skills and wouldn't have a clue where to start.  I wonder if AR Zone people may be able to collectively do something by using the community to research and build websites? 

This may be unrealistic, but I'd be interested to see what others think.

[Kerry Baker]

This is the study I was referring to.

http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc/

One of the criticisms about the vegan diet that regularly gets rolled out is the original study cited in the article that later was shown to use the wrong data. It's pretty much impossible to live a pure vegan life but we can try to make sure how we live is the least harmful way. Even the Jains rely on people giving them food to survive which brings in the same issues. Personally I think the way to go is for people to grow their own food as much as possible, then buy locally and then look at imported food. Housing I think go solar although I'm not sure if there are fatalities with solar. As a wildlife rescuer I have picked up a female ringtail possum whose front paws were charred stumps from contacting electrical wires, it was hideous. So anything we can do to reduce that sort of impact on wildlife will be all good.

[Jacob Edward]

To be completely honest, I think we're sorta at a point right now where we kinda need to just round up every animal and put them in this protected un-developed area where they can live away from the human world... perhaps we can have food deposit areas, but until something like that happens, I don't know what else to do...  How about donating australia to the animals LOL?

[Kerry Baker]

Would love to. Regrettably the attitude towards animals here is atrocious )-:

[Carly Monroe]

 There is so much posturing, spin, and skewing on every side of every issue in today's world, it's almost impossible to be in possession of the facts. that study is a perfect example. If you look under "methods", it says that animal  deaths were studied in two categories, direct death for food and in the harvesting of crops. Here is where the spin comes in....very little death occurs in the harvesting of crops, it's the tilling and planting of crops that causes all the death. That's why these studies all use the word "harvest", and never planting, production, or tilling. One reason spin can be administered so often is that people today are so disconnected from where their food comes from, their only knowledge of it what they read about or see on a youtube video. They don't see things in real life, with their own eyes. That old cliche of "The truth lies in the middle" was never more appropraite as it is today. This video demonstrates the animal death that occurs in tillage and planting, the harvesting machinery never breaks the soil, so naturally there is little harm there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQkkJNcYPGw

I hate the fact that everyone on all sides of every issue known to man is so selfish that they can't show everything and show all sides when they discuss an issue. Even when studies are presented, what the study "shows" does not tell as much as what the study "does not" show.

Kerry Baker said:

This is the study I was referring to.

http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc/

One of the criticisms about the vegan diet that regularly gets rolled out is the original study cited in the article that later was shown to use the wrong data. It's pretty much impossible to live a pure vegan life but we can try to make sure how we live is the least harmful way. Even the Jains rely on people giving them food to survive which brings in the same issues. Personally I think the way to go is for people to grow their own food as much as possible, then buy locally and then look at imported food. Housing I think go solar although I'm not sure if there are fatalities with solar. As a wildlife rescuer I have picked up a female ringtail possum whose front paws were charred stumps from contacting electrical wires, it was hideous. So anything we can do to reduce that sort of impact on wildlife will be all good.

[animalwelfareeduc]

Do you know about this now?;

http://www.veganbuilders.uk/

[Kerry Baker]

Interesting to see and good that they are and support vegan business. It isn't clear however how they go about choosing building materials except for the recycling. I like that they offer advice and I assume they would work with a client to meet their ethical requirements. Thanks for posting.